Kharkov: Disaster on the Donets

[jmlo]

Dommage le scenar n'est pas fini

[Pumba1968]

Il sera dispo vers Noel...

[Pumba1968]

Good things come to those who wait...

AtD: SE comprendra en plus de AtD, 3 scenarii gratuits...Operation Husky, Operation Konrad et Kirovograd.

http://www.matrixgames.com/products/382 ... nd.Edition

Tout cela se précise...J'attend le discount aussi.

[Pumba1968]

Il semblerait que la sortie est imminente...Demain ou Jeudi.

Une bien belle surprise de la part de SSG puisque je ne l'attendais pas avant l'été.

[Pumba1968]

Quelques screenies...

[Pumba1968]

Une série de nouveaux screens dispos...Cela fleure bon la sortie.

http://www.matrixgames.com/news/654/New ... nd.Edition!

Mogilev...



L'objectif principal...Smolensk.



Des éléments de la 29. Mot. ID...



Les unités soviets sont encerclées dans Orsha il me semble...



La tenaille se referme sur Smolensk...



Allez, il faut me le sortir se soir...

[jmlo]

Curieusement pas mal de scenarii sont prévus pour cet add-on et aucun pour le jeu de base Enfin s'il est pas trop cher je me laisserai tenter

[Pumba1968]

Logiquement cela devrait se situer entre € 20 et € 25...Enfin c'est ce qu'espère Nostradamus.
J'espère aussi qu'ils vont maintenir le discount promis aux posseseurs de la première version de AtD, car je n'en ai plus entendu parler depuis un moment.

Une contatation sur les screens...La campagne de 4 semaines de AtD se retrouve réduite à 3 semaines sur Atd:SE...J'aimerais bien comprendre un tel choix qui m'échappe pour le moment.

[Pumba1968]

Ouin, ouin, ouin...Il n'est toujours pas dispo.

En attendant de l'avoir, des infos supplémentaires sur les différents scenarii de l'Operation Konrad...

Between 1st Jan and 15th Mar 1945 no fewer than 5 German offensives took place in Hungary – the destruction of the Garam Soviet bridgehead, Spring Awakening and 3 attempts to relieve Budapest. This scenario recreates the 3 major offensives designed to relieve encircled Budapest and recapture the eastern sector of the Margit Line – Operation’s Konrad I,II and III.

Contrary to popular assumption these offensives were not intended to rescue the garrison; but move further forces into Hungary for Hitler’s final stand, however, with a view to giving the Axis player 2 paths to victory – both strategies can be successful in this recreation.

Players familiar with Kharkov will notice a few design elements that are quite different to what they may be used to. I will attempt to clarify them here so you can appreciate the thought process behind them.
1. Only the Budapest Garrison and 8th and 20th Panzer Divisions are worth vp’s if eliminated. The idea here is to allow the Axis player a way to keep a sizable vp total out of Soviet hands and a chance of a victory if he feels he must evacuate Budapest. Budapest is quite valuable, but its capture will only give the Soviets a crushing victory if they reduce the garrison too. The 11th and 20th Panzer Divisions are withdrawn mid-game. By allocating points we can stop the Axis player committing them to destruction before withdrawal and resulting in unlikely last minute offensives. This feature was debated hotly as I know many players like to get points for unit kills, but I hope you can understand the reasoning and the way it makes the Soviet player focus on the objectives rather than taking the easy option of concentrating all forces on the relief and none on the siege.
2. Last turn VP point for objectives. Many locations in this game award vp’s only if held at the end of the game. As you play you will notice a tendency for the Axis to make rapid advances, capturing a lot of territory in a few turns. Generally, by the end of the game, the Soviet player will have recaptured most of these. Last turn only points ensure the Axis fight to keep hold of territory gained and the Soviets race to the more distant locations as the clock runs out – ensuring a well paced game. There are some locations that give a one off vp dump to the Axis if captured. These represent locations that if captured indicate the Axis offensive is going to plan. The big ones (Szentrendre and Erd) were locations that if captured provided an anchor to keep the city open, they are big rewards for difficult objectives and ensure the Soviet player keeps the locations defended to the last – but after the locations fall the Soviets need to reassess their offensive objectives since it’s likely the Budapest ring defence has been broken. There are also 4 supply points on the outskirts of western Budapest. If captured these will supply the garrison after their initial supplies run out. They start off in Soviet hands and it is wise not to lose them once the German breakout is triggered by the approaching relief forces; to do so will make it very hard for the Soviets to reduce Budapest. These locations do not represent a cache of supplies and weapons etc, however, are an indication that the ring around Budapest has been broken and supplies are getting in – either by air now airfields are out of Soviet artillery range or through gaps in the Soviet line.
3. Terrain: The major river is the Danube and is impassable except at fords or bridges. Fords are represented as discoloured river sections and have the same penalties as minor rivers. Some hex sides are rugged and afford the same benefits as the full hex hex side. Play with ‘cliffs’ on to see them easily. The battle took place in snowy conditions; however, I have reserved the white map for periods of heavy ground snow. The top of the map is east.
4. Units: All units are based on a direct comparison to the standard soviet infantry unit and the T-34/76 from Kharkov. Direct armour defence has been given to units equipped with Schurzen and of course, heavy tanks like the IS-II and King Tiger. The comparisons were done with the aid of ASL references and do highlight some interesting differences in the way these units should now be used.
Also included are 5 extra scenarios designed to challenge the experienced player or explore a number of plausible ‘what if’ situations
1. Additional German Forces: 10th SS, 20th Pz, 3rd Kav, 257th VG, 79th VG, 167th VG are available. This assumes that some of the units fed into the Ardennes offensive (to little benefit) were used to bolster the attack in Hungary.
2. Larger German Offensive: 10th SS, 76th and 167th VG at start BUT 20th Pz and 3 Kav are not received. Soviets do not get 104th,122nd,35th gds, 113th and 74th rifle, 23rd Tk Corps. This assumes an earlier Frehlingserwachsen. Including attacks by 2nd Pz armee and Armeegruppe F on the RHS of the map.
3. The soviets prepared:All 18th Tk Corps are set up near Bicske. 32nd Mot Brigade replaced by 10th Gds Rifle. 1st Mech set up west of Danube at Szent Endre. Reinforcements are 1 turn earlier. No german surprise.
4. As above but with surprise (Soviets partially prepared).
5. Operation Paula – main attack from the south (right of map), but fuel problems occur 2 turns earlier and the game ends 2 turns sooner.
An AI is included for the main game only and will be improved over time.

[Pumba1968]

Simultanément à la sortie de AtD: SE, un patch sera dispo pour mettre K: DotD au dernier standard. Celui-ci incluera les 3 scenarii gratuits...Mais puisque AtD sera dispo, autant le prendre!

En attendant le jour J, la première partie d'un AAR est dispo à la lecture...

http://www.matrixgames.com/newsletter/c ... _page1.asp

[jmlo]

Celui-ci incluera les 3 scenarii gratuits...

C'est déjà ça

[Pumba1968]

Bon le patch 1.20 pour K: DotD est dispo!!!

Matrix Games News Release
For Kharkov: Disaster on the Donets


Kharkov: Disaster on the Donets Gets a Major Update
A major new update to the famed gaming system is advancing side-by-side with the newly released expansion!

Matrix Games and Strategic Studies Group (www.ssg.com.au) are pleased to release the comprehensive 1.20 update for Kharkov: Disaster on the Donets. The update includes three new free scenarios (Operation Konrad, Operation Husky, and Kirovograd), several major rule changes, UI and controls improvements like an "Entrench All" button, and some bug fixes.



The update's release coincides with the release of Across the Dnepr: Second Edition a new expansion for Kharkov: Disaster on the Donets!





David Heath, Director of Operations at Matrix Games, said "This is a gigantic update for Kharkov fans. Apart from reaping the benefits of all the engine improvements SSG has been hard at work on for Across the Dnepr: Second Edition, the three new free scenarios will surely keep armchair generals busy for quite a while! We hope that this encourages Kharkov owners to also try the new Across the Dnepr: Second Edition expansion, which presents players with one of the best operational challenges in wargaming."



Kharkov: Disaster on the Donets is the latest strategy title from the award-winning team at Strategic Studies Group. A synthesis of the very best elements of two critically acclaimed and top-rated game systems, Decisive Battles and Battlefront, and a successor to both, the new Kharkov: Disaster on the Donets brings to life a campaign of epic scale and dynamic battles on the Eastern Front of World War II.



Command the Soviet forces, newly confident after stopping and throwing back the Barbarossa offensive, or try the elite and seasoned German army now reconstituted after winter losses and ready to regain the initiative. Two separate forces prepared offensives in the same area in the spring of 1942. When the dust had cleared the Germans had managed a great victory that opened the doors to the drive on Stalingrad. But the outcome was far from certain and in Kharkov: Disaster on the Donets, history is yours to rewrite!



Get the update here. This update is comprehensive and will bring all previous versions to 1.20.


Kharkov: Disaster on the Donets

Discussion Forum

[jmlo]

ça tombe bien je voulais m'y remettre

[Pumba1968]

J'ai aussi oublié l'essentiel...AtD: SE est dispo.

C'est la fête!!!

[Pumba1968]

€ 31.00 HT!!!

Ils se foutent de la gueule du monde!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PAS DE DISCOUNT!!! C'est ce quoi ce bordel...